The key issue here is Self Acceptance as the real happiness.

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0:05 [Applause] 0:10 hello and welcome to the Unstoppable you 0:13 podcast with your host Gabby company a 0:17 place where you can learn different tips 0:19 and strategies from Big leaders today my 0:23 guest is the beautiful Susan Carew Holmes 0:26 she’s a peace clown and author happiness 0:31 is a big topic today she will talk about 0:35 this important topic well welcome thanks 0:38 for having me gabby could you tell us 0:41 about yourself yes um in a natural I’ve 0:45 come from um a working-class family in 0:48 Australia and like most middle sort of 0:50 class Australians sort of worked my way 0:52 through school and I ended up going 0:54 through University and studying 0:56 economics and marketing and I worked for 1:00 a good decade as a market analyst um for 1:04 corporations and then in 1998 I had a 1:07 dream when I was teaching peace and that 1:10 changed my entire life my business 1:13 went I ended up dressing as a clown I 1:17 got inspired to go into hospitals by a a 1:19 team called Patricia Cameron Hill and 1:21 Shane Yates who were 1:23 Educators and they were the ones that 1:25 told me about Patch 1:26 Adams and then sometime after I did a 1:29 bit of Hospital clowning I was invited 1:31 to Russia to clown with Patch Adams and 1:34 it was there that I saw true happiness 1:37 cuz patch is known for happiness is the 1:39 best medicine laughter is the best 1:42 medicine actually same thing really so 1:44 we were bringing laughter and happiness 1:46 into the hospitals to help um alleviate 1:51 disease so my life kind of turned into 1:55 one of um bringing joy to other people 1:59 and it was not about the money whereas 2:01 my PRI prior business life had been 2:03 about money so I was working at in my 2:06 own 2:07 business when I left all of that I 2:10 became Freer to actually think about how 2:14 happiness and values can change our 2:16 world so I then taught in schools as a 2:19 clown a peace clown I taught a program 2:22 called real hopes which is an acronym 2:25 for responsibility empathy awareness 2:27 love honesty Oneness peace enjoyment and 2:30 service and it’s a little bit like a 2:32 Rainbow Bridge so when you align all 2:35 those 2:36 values you naturally will feel peace 2:39 it’s anti-bullying program too so the 2:42 children had to learn how to deal with 2:44 differences how they treat people if 2:46 that person’s a stranger a friend so a 2:49 lot of my life to date has been really 2:53 being about developing inner peace outer 2:56 peace and also reconnecting to humor and 2:59 getting PE people to remember that 3:02 really our happiness is more important 3:04 than how much we own how much money we 3:06 make so what is happiness for you it’s 3:09 when you love yourself actually most 3:12 people don’t love themselves most people 3:14 will use their career their position 3:18 their power to say I’m something but 3:22 really they don’t love themselves they 3:24 they’re proving to themselves that 3:25 they’re something so they are looking 3:26 for external things yes to be happy 3:30 they’re putting all their love in all 3:31 the wrong places if you like mhm the 3:34 thing they were never taught as children 3:36 was to love themselves their parents 3:38 were particularly in my culture 3:41 particularly critical you know you’re 3:43 getting that wrong do this you know 3:45 you’re not doing it right you know 3:46 you’ve got to get a job you know there’s 3:48 a lot of pressure on children um and 3:51 they see their families unhappy so how 3:54 on Earth can you become a happy person 3:56 if the role models in your life who you 3:57 see like God aren’t happy so why is very 4:01 difficult to be happy because we really 4:03 haven’t been taught What happiness is I 4:05 mean it is our true nature like if 4:07 you’re in an indigenous Society without 4:09 all the education and 4:11 materialism you’d probably have a 4:13 natural happiness about you in any case 4:16 MH you know the criticisms are not 4:18 particularly prominent in indigenous 4:20 society that hasn’t been if you like um 4:24 it hasn’t taken on the western type you 4:27 know unhappiness 4:30 it was actually Gandhi in India who 4:32 talked about the importation of British 4:35 unhappiness into India he said we 4:39 are assimilating the greed rapidly but 4:43 we’re we’re not doing it for ourselves 4:46 we’re not being 4:47 independent having pride and self-love 4:50 you know there was a lot of 4:51 misunderstanding I think in the people 4:55 mhm I think probably happiness is a 4:58 choice because currently in life there 5:03 are different challenges and that’s okay 5:07 we can be in the anger position in the 5:10 victimization position state or we can 5:13 change to be happy focus on the 5:16 possibilities even though the situation 5:19 is is hard what do you think about that 5:21 I I think it it requires a certain 5:23 Mastery particularly when you’re dealing 5:25 with someone who’s not happy because 5:27 those who are trained in well-being can 5:29 often 5:31 minimize and say you got to move out of 5:34 this and stop being a 5:36 victim but I think what people actually 5:38 need is when they’re unhappy they need 5:39 to feel the feeling all the way through 5:41 to the end you need to cry it out 5:43 otherwise it returns or it goes into the 5:45 tissue so no hold the emotion you let 5:48 them feel what they feel I think too 5:49 many times coaches are trying to 5:52 redirect their energy or into more 5:55 happy things but the ultimate core of 5:58 what’s creating the unhappiness is never 6:00 resolved and sometimes people just need 6:02 to cry release and we deny we deny the 6:05 cry pain yes and so you feel what you 6:08 feel and that’s okay it’s about getting 6:11 to the core of what is the source of 6:14 that unhappiness and sometimes it’s very 6:16 hard to find because it can be 6:18 unconscious might have come from an 6:20 experience in your early life so know 6:23 thyself is what I often talk about um 6:25 with happiness Australia we’ve got to 6:27 actually get to know ourselves that 6:29 means face everything and Rise so in 6:32 other words you don’t just go oh let’s 6:35 all be happy cuz there is that 6:37 superficiality with happiness let’s just 6:38 be happy cuz it makes everyone happy you 6:41 go to a party and you’re happy you buy a 6:43 clothes you’re happy you buy a house I 6:45 girl you are happy but then what happen 6:47 when this situation pass you are unhappy 6:51 and it’s normal to have happiness and 6:52 unhappiness I mean they are Companions 6:54 and you don’t know Joy unless you know 6:56 your sorrow you know as 7:00 Kahil Gibran said it’s well worth people 7:03 having a look at his poetry he was 7:05 Lebanese actually he was very wise so 7:08 I’m I’ve been through a lot and I’ve 7:10 cried a lot and I’ve had I’ve 7:12 written a lot of poetry to find the 7:15 truth of situations I didn’t try and 7:17 push them away I actually 7:20 confronted but in a gentle way I don’t 7:23 hate other people CU if you hate them 7:25 you’re going to hold on to the anger and 7:27 you just won’t release it there is there 7:30 is a point when you come through 7:32 examining what has gone wrong where you 7:34 have to forgive the other party you have 7:36 to let it go yeah at some point but it’s 7:38 when you’re ready yeah otherwise it’s a 7:41 low frequency for 7:43 us and before the this interview we’ve 7:46 been talking about you told me something 7:48 important I 7:50 trust I really don’t focus on money I 7:53 don’t have a bank account but I trust 7:57 tell us about that trust please 8:00 let’s just say that circumstances 8:01 happened in my life where I got cut off 8:04 income under false uh premise but it 8:08 turned out to be a gift in Disguise I 8:12 also had a situation where my home um a 8:15 council said that there was a pipeline 8:16 going to be running next to the house 8:18 and that I had to leave so I became 8:21 homeless 8:23 technically but this shift in my life 8:26 actually became a Liberation for me 8:28 because I’m trained in economics so I 8:30 know about GDP and we’re all taught get 8:32 a job you know security material 8:35 wealth but what I found myself 8:37 questioning was is this really happiness 8:39 um so I decided to trust um I did close 8:43 down my bank account because of the 8:44 corruption in the banks and for me 8:47 happiness is staying in alignment with 8:49 what I consider to be true um if an 8:52 activity is causing misery for other 8:55 people such as in economics we call it 8:57 structural violence so if the structure 9:00 of high prices we’ve got big 9:03 investors um who may well be creating 9:06 situations of poverty in a in a nation 9:10 state because they might want the real 9:11 estate or they might there might be 9:13 negative reasons for why they’re doing 9:16 what they’re doing that’s a structural 9:18 violence and what often happens is the 9:20 ones doing it don’t have any idea of the 9:23 impact on the one who loses their 9:26 business or what have you so for me I 9:28 decided to move out of that reality 9:32 because I see it as 9:34 exploitative um I’ve come to understand 9:36 that the real wealth of a nation is 9:38 inherent within the values of the people 9:41 these values are things like compassion 9:43 kindness so when you look at a homeless 9:45 person many people have a lot of 9:47 prejudices around that and I’ve 9:48 experienced it directly because they’re 9:51 fearful of those who don’t have and they 9:54 think they’re going to want something 9:56 they’ve lost that sense of trust in in 9:59 their fellow human beings too and their 10:00 own instincts which is if someone’s in 10:03 need go and help them you’re going to 10:05 feel a lot better rather than 10:08 transferring your guilt to a a social 10:10 impact investor who provides social 10:13 housing so I let go of the bank account 10:17 I chose to trust Life Source God 10:21 whatever you want to call it and this is 10:23 now my eighth 10:25 year so I don’t have rules I don’t ask 10:28 people for anything 10:30 if something comes to me through love I 10:31 accept it if it doesn’t come through 10:33 love I don’t want charity because the 10:35 person will only 10:36 resent so I allow life to EB and flow if 10:41 you like and what I have is what I want 10:43 what I don’t have is fine I don’t have 10:45 it it’s reality mhm so I think I’m 10:47 living more in reality so what’s the 10:49 impact moving from 3D mentality to 5D 10:54 mentality I think first they’ve got to 10:56 Define what 3D is um for those who don’t 10:59 know anything about the dimensions that 11:01 we’re talking about it’s they’re really 11:02 to do with frequencies of 11:04 Consciousness when we talk of three 11:06 Third Dimension we’re talking about this 11:08 plane we’re on now it’s all 11:10 physical when a person moves into the 11:13 fourth dimension they may well be more 11:15 loving they will be more loving and 11:18 they’re less fearful CU they’re starting 11:20 to shed all the mental constructs that 11:24 we’ve all been taught from childhood 11:26 bridge that’s the bridge to go ahead yeah 11:28 you start to move and start to get 11:29 inspiration that happens far more I get 11:31 a lot of inspiration mhm and you start 11:34 to look through um the concepts that we 11:37 were all trained as children and the 11:39 television media keeps promoting so as 11:42 people start to rise out of this they 11:45 become less fearful so if we’re talking 11:47 about The Fifth 11:49 Dimension that’s a place of great peace 11:53 wow and when you’re at peace you’ve 11:55 actually resolved inner conflict with 11:57 you in other words you’re starting to 11:59 love yourself as you are you look at the 12:02 other person you’re not looking for 12:03 what’s wrong you can already see that 12:06 everything is right you start to know 12:08 that there’s no coincidences in life 12:10 that things is happening things are 12:12 happening for you not against you yeah 12:14 so when I lost my home when I was cut 12:17 off income when I saw rigidities in the 12:20 system where I wasn’t getting what was 12:23 appropriate for me I saw that working 12:26 for me because I was here to learn to 12:28 live without 12:29 money I was here to learn to trust life 12:33 and I was to do it in a positive way not 12:36 as a victim and there is a funny thing 12:38 you know people are willing to get many 12:40 things they want many things you know 12:42 but you don’t attract what you want you 12:45 attract who you are so people need to 12:48 start working on themselves first in 12:51 order to start bringing more beautiful 12:54 things to their life as you say before 12:56 you know who you are how you love 12:58 yourself how you trust the source or 13:01 anything name it it doesn’t matter but 13:04 how important is trust and also 13:07 self-worth a lot of people are attaching 13:11 ideas my self-worth is on the basis of 13:14 how much I earn and the assets that I 13:17 own and these are false yeah people look 13:19 for validation you know yeah I’m okay 13:22 look at me yeah yeah look at me I don’t 13:24 need anything you know I am who I am I 13:26 can progress aone the time but I am who 13:30 I am that’s the most important thing oh 13:33 my God thank you for sharing that but a 13:34 lot of people don’t know that yeah they 13:36 don’t know they don’t understand they 13:37 don’t understand because they’ve been 13:38 taught to think in certain ways so 13:41 self-acceptance is critical and you got 13:43 to forgive the past so all these hurts 13:46 that have happened everybody’s being 13:47 hurt no it’s part of the lesson it’s 13:49 part of the it’s all coming for you yeah 13:51 you either decide to look at yourself as 13:53 a victim and you can you can tell the 13:55 story of the victim over and over and 13:57 keep that frequency low and it actually 14:00 attracts like you said very wisely it 14:02 attracts into your life exactly yeah 14:05 what you think you are yeah if you think 14:07 you’re a lot more beautiful and 14:09 wonderful and it’s not vanity this is 14:11 I’m far more than I thought I was and I 14:14 don’t even know who I am anymore but 14:16 whatever it is it feels wonderful look 14:18 at your face you are shining when you 14:20 are talking you shining yeah your 14:22 frequency is so high it’s lifting yeah 14:25 and that’s how it feels you start to 14:26 feel unlimited and that’s why it’s not 14:29 about validation with money cuz I I’ve 14:31 talked to like workers who are who are 14:32 talking about making millions and and 14:34 whilst I say go ahead and do what makes 14:36 you happy just be aware that you don’t 14:39 silently send a signal that this half a 14:42 million dollars that I’m worth is a 14:44 validation of my worth you’re worth the 14:48 same whether you have half a million or 14:50 a million or whether you have $1 in your 14:52 purse you’re the same yeah so it’s 14:55 really about us finding ourselves and 14:58 accepting ourselves I think yeah

15:00 happiness Australia is offering 15:03 different programs projects activities 15:07 could you tell us please how people can 15:08 contact you just just very quickly 15:10 before I do and I will okay happiness 15:12 austral is a call to action mhm it’s not 15:15 a business and it’s not volunteering so 15:17 I have funships there where people can 15:19 learn to laugh out loud play like clowns 15:22 conflict resolution and inquiry the work 15:25 of bar and Katie if they want to contact 15:27 me they can go to happiness Australia at 15:30 world peaceful Fu 15:33 l.com and if they want to check the 15:35 website go to ha. world peaceful the two 15:41 ls.com okay okay if someone is a 15:44 struggling to believe happiness is 15:47 possible what would you say to them 15:49 please when people are in a low 15:51 frequency and they’re feeling very sad 15:53 it’s very hard to convince a person that 15:55 you can be happy because they feel very 15:57 dense energy around themselves 16:00 a little I find my voice can help um 16:03 when I talk to people who’ve been down 16:04 I’ve just had someone recently I’ve had 16:06 that with you can put your arm around 16:08 them and let them know they’re not alone 16:11 firstly if they want to cry give them 16:14 permission to cry and don’t say don’t 16:16 cry oh I can’t feel it you know and then 16:19 you say I want you to think back to 16:21 times where you felt happy so let’s 16:24 write down a few of those ideas so when 16:25 you’re a child when did you feel happy 16:27 and you get them to remember the 16:29 frequency okay when you’re a teenager 16:31 what was the happiest moment you had ah 16:34 that that’s great now if all your if you 16:37 could wave a magic wand and get rid of 16:39 all your problems what do you see 16:41 yourself doing what could you be and 16:44 suddenly they drop it all the story and 16:47 there’s this magnificent potential 16:49 possibility sitting in front of them but 16:51 you have to work them towards it you 16:54 can’t just go from zero to five dirt to 16:56 that top you can’t you have to go slowly 16:59 work your way up that’s the problem with 17:01 people you know sometimes they want to 17:03 be successful or to get things overnight 17:06 they are missing the work part so it’s a 17:09 process one step at a time as you are 17:12 saying well instant gratification 17:14 Society is what we created and we use 17:16 money to get instant pleasure but that’s 17:18 not joy and that’s not happiness it’s 17:21 self acceptance is the real happiness if 17:23 you don’t have that you won’t be happy 17:25 it doesn’t matter how much you have yeah 17:27 that’s completely right thank you Susan 17:30 for being here in the podcast I really 17:32 appreciate your message your expertise 17:34 and everything thank you thank you for 17:37 being with us and thank you for doing 17:39 what you do cuz you’re an angel yourself 17:41 thank you it’s been a real pleasure to 17:43 reconnect thank you thank you thank you 17:45 very much it was a pleasure to have this 17:50 episode with the beautiful Susan with an 17:53 important topic it was Gabby company in 17:56 Australia see you next time bye-bye